Dr. John Kim: On Mold Toxicity, Mycotoxins, Heavy Metals, & Cellular Detox | TUH #276 – Transcript

00:00Mold is not just about the immune dysfunction or having allergies, it actually cause mitochondrial dysfunction deep into the cellular level down to the DNA. >> Cells are like human beings, they behave in communities. This is the way that cellular activity influences other cells and how metabolically healthy cells can become metabolically sick because they're in environment with other metabolically sick cells.

00:19>> So it's vital for the cell membrane to function well. Unfortunately, dealing with micro toxins and mold in general, it actually damage the cell membrane integrity. >> Unfortunately, these are not the types of infections and chronic conditions that drive you to the ER. They're ones that people learn to deal with.

00:35>> This is the reason why when I work with clients, I want to empower you to be the best doctor for your own. And this is one thing that I'd like to teach is enhancing cellular resiliency. >> I think there's such a paucity of expertise out there on what to do once you find these infections. How do we actually eliminate mold from the body?

00:50>> One of the things that worked out really well for patients, and you don't need to spend a lot of money on it, and there is a company that supports this. I do >> >> Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human podcast. I'm your host human biologist Gary Brecka where we go down

01:16the road of everything anti-aging biohacking longevity and everything in between. And I should add mold, micro toxin, parasite, virus, heavy metal, and everything that's affecting your body. Um, you know, today's podcast This is This is a guest I've wanted to have on for a long time because I have been deep down the rabbit hole with many of you for the better part of a year now talking about how these chronic

01:42low-grade infections are leading to systemic disease and pathology right before our eyes, not showing up on your labs, and causing all kinds of conditions that we are chalking up to a consequence of aging or repeated infection or we're chalking these up to a consequence of our environment, or stress, or a job, or career, or kids, and it's none of those things. Very often, it is preventable toxicity, and today we're going to talk about some of

02:09the big offenders and how we can get them out of our body. Welcome to the podcast, Dr. John Kim. >> Gary, thank you so much. >> It is It is such a pleasure to have you. You know, before we before the cameras started rolling today, I talked about a lecture that I gave in Salt Lake City um going back about 2 years. And the first the morning lecture, which was about genetic methylation, I actually [clears throat] got a standing ovation from this crowd of of physicians.

02:36And then that afternoon, um I had I did a 45-minute talk on toxicity. And we talked about mold, mycotoxins, uh heavy metal toxicity, and some of the consequences.

02:49And I was quite ridiculed, and and I don't want to say laughed off the stage, but I could tell they were just being tolerant until my talk ended. And I actually had some ENTs um come come to me after the lecture and tell me that they didn't believe in mold uh or mycotoxins.

03:09Um that these were everybody they said they commented everybody's got mold, it's in and out of our bodies. Um they're basically tired of the mold cult. Um and I think over the last 2 years um through the detox challenges I've had the experts like yourself I've had on the podcast, people are accepting that these are real toxic loads with very real consequences.

03:35And I've been a part of I've been really blessed to be a part of the journey of several people who have had young children with repeated sore throats um where they were just about to remove their adenoids, and they found a functional medicine doctor and said put the brakes on.

03:52This this child has heavy metal mold and micro toxins. Let's do a detox and see where we stand. And now they're 3 4 5 years uh symptom free. So, if if I could for my audience, I I'd like to back up to your story because um a lot of the mo- the more influential and impactful people, really passionate people that come on this podcast, are passionate and purpose-driven because they solved the problem in their

04:20life, a big problem. And at 33 years old, you had a major heart attack. >> I did. >> And uh I hope it's okay if I say that cuz I already said it. Um >> No, no, it's okay. It's okay. It's I I call it the pain to glory story. Everybody has their >> to talk about that. I want to talk about that journey because it gives my listeners the why. You know, why are you here? Why are you so passionate? Um and at that time, I'm sure there were not a lot of resources available for

04:46you. You had to become your own citizen scientist. Thankfully, you're a PharmD. Um so, you have you have an intricate knowledge of cellular biology, pharmacokinetics. So, at least you had a vantage point to start from and maybe intelligently evaluate what was out there in the world. But I'd love for you to share that story.

05:05>> Yeah, absolutely. So, I was 33 years old. I just got back from my friend's wedding down in LA, and this was exactly June 1st. And then 3 days later, on June 4th, that's when I started having this heartburn. I always had a heartburn issue. And I always had some kind of gut problem to begin with. I completely ignored it. And that particular day, if something that pain was even resonating higher, in the evening, that pain shot down right to my left arm.

05:30>> Mhm. >> Completely ignored it. Went to sleep. Woke up the following day like an idiot. >> Mhm. >> And then having to go back to work, and then mid-afternoon, that's when I decided to go to the urgent care center instead of ER. And then the urgent care center doctor is like, "You're having a heart attack right now. We have to get to the ER right away."

05:47>> Mhm. >> Got got in the ambulance, got to the ER, and even the ER physician, even the attending cardiologist didn't believe that this 33-year-old guy, who actually got the cholesterol lab report from my doctor 6 month prior, they were looking at this, there's no sign of possibility actually having a heart attack, but this guy's having chest pain. So, they were trying to rule out as being a pericarditis.

06:11>> Mhm. >> And then when they did a echocardiogram, they found that the my left ventricle wasn't pumping well. So, it's actually sign of ischemia. >> Mhm. >> They brought me to the cath lab, 80% 85% blockage in my LAD. >> Widowmaker. Oh my gosh. Most people are not that lucky.

06:26>> Especially for young people, right? For especially when you're in the 50s and the 60s, you have a compensatory mechanism in terms of your newly formed blood vessels basically, right? To take care of that blockage. But generally for younger patients, they actually die quickly >> You know, I had a cardiologist I watched a cardiologist give a lecture and he said, "What is the first sign of advanced cardiac disease in I think it was 35 years old younger?" And people gave all these answers and he said the first sign of advanced cardiac disease is sudden

06:54death. Yeah, that's the first symptom. >> Absolutely. >> So, God's got a plan for you, my friend. >> That that was that was something that Well, I didn't know that, but then I end up having to be in the cardiac ICU unit staring at a wall for 3 days wondering, "How did this happen?"

07:10And then especially questions as to what led to this process, right? Having to have a early cardiac disease at age of 33. And then I had this overweight physician coming in and tell me to cut out all meat, cholesterol, and everything else.

07:25They put me on a atorvastatin 80 mg. And I was like, "This is nonsense. There's something wrong here." So, I got home and then I just sat there for 7 days just wondering like, "What could I have done differently?" So, I went to my functional medicine doctor, who I'm good friends with. She actually asked me, "I think you're dealing with tick-borne illness.

07:43All I wanted to do was a vitamin C drip. >> Tick-borne illness, wow. >> So, she did a blood work and then after a month and a half later, that's when we tested positive for uh aspergillus antibodies, IGM IGG, >> Mhm. >> bartonella infection, mycoplasma pneumoniae, Epstein-Barr, mercury poisoning, >> Mhm.

08:01>> on top of parasitic issues. So, why does it occur? Well, there's an endothelial damage that occur from a bartonella infection, which is a cat scratch fever, which is common you could get to get from a tick-borne illness, including spider bite. >> Mhm.

08:15>> So, I actually was in Boy Scouts all my life and I probably ended up contracting that way, right? >> And then I lived in a very moldy house to begin with growing up, >> Mhm. >> right? And then also living in a very stressful environment growing up as well, you know, living in a um immigrant family, parents are constantly working, busy, etc.

08:34So, that led to a lot of the newer inflammation that I was dealing with. And as you know, all the cascading in terms of inflammatory response goes from the gut. So, I always had a gut problem. >> Mhm. >> And that was [clears throat] something that I should have caught, but I was just busy. And and the unfortunate thing is that a lot of Americans, including entrepreneurs and executives and people that you work with, I'm question have the same issue where >> We don't listen to our bodies, you know, it sends us signals.

09:00>> It does. >> Yeah. >> And I wasn't listening. >> Yeah. >> You know, so that that's when I already had an existing problem to begin with. I had anxiety left and right. I could not sleep that well when I was in my 20s and 30s. And then when I actually had that heart attack, that's when I stopped to listen and figuring out, all right, what's going on. And I got the answer.

09:18And it took me about 2 years to clear it out, but it was a very tough process. And that was the moment that I found out how cellular integrity is so vitally important for your health. And this is when start diving into lipid membrane medicine, right? And utilizing uh phospholipid therapy.

09:36And phosphatidylcholine IV IVPC, I've done that, too. Yep. Uh, but specifically at that time, I got connected with Dr. Ed Kane, who's the founder of Body Bio. >> Mhm. >> And he actually read my red blood cell fatty acid analysis. And that particular test is very special, run by Kennedy Krieger, looking looking at the entire structure of the cell membrane, looking at the lipoperoxisomes and the renegade fats, looking at the fluidity index of

10:02the actual cell membrane, and he designed a customized lipid therapy that I had to go through. >> Mhm. >> And my goodness, for 4 months I was severely sick because all that toxins dealing with was just getting dumped out and my body, especially my nervous system, was not ready for it. And I learned a lot from that point on. And that And that's how I approach the clinical approach in dealing with mold toxicity and cast and all these different hyper bio toxin